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„Maybrit Illner“: Wie man möglichst klimaverträglich lebt

Meeresbiologin Antje Boetius un Bundeswirtschaftsminister Peter Altmaier ebi „Maybrit Illner“.

Meeresbiologin Antje Boetius un Bundeswirtschaftsminister Peter Altmaier ebi „Maybrit Illner“.

Foto: ZDF/Jule Roehr

Berlin  Bei „Maybrit Illner“ erklärte ein Gast, wie sie ein Jahr ihren CO2-Ausstoß reduzierte. Könnte eine Steuer auf das Treibhausgas helfen?

Die junge „Fridays for Future“-Bewegung ist erfolgreich: Seit Wochen dominiert die Klimakrise die öffentliche Debatte. Aus gutem Grund, schließlich geht es um ein fundamentales Problem, das uns alle betrifft. Die Frage ist nur, was tun?

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Maybrit Illner-Talk – das waren die Gäste

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Die CO2-Einsparerin

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Was für eine CO2-Steuer spricht

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Was die Steuer dann bringt?

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Was gegen eine CO2-Steuer spricht

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Das Fazit

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