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Sozialpädagoge Charchira: „Wir sind nie einfach nur deutsch“

Samy Charchira auf der Freitreppe am Burgplatz. An diesem Abend hatte die Polizei dort nicht so viel zu tun. Charchira ging herum und sprach mit den jungen Menschen.

Samy Charchira auf der Freitreppe am Burgplatz. An diesem Abend hatte die Polizei dort nicht so viel zu tun. Charchira ging herum und sprach mit den jungen Menschen.

Foto: Uwe-Jens Ruhnau

Düsseldorf.  Der Sozialpädagoge Samy Charchira über die Probleme in der Düsseldorfer Altstadt und Respekt. Und was er tun würde.

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